pjkl wrote:I jump back of western bargaining in Bali.
When I see Western people trying to bargain to pay 20000 rp (1,5 Euros) for hiring a surfboard, that makes me really sick. Boards are expensive in Bali, when you ask for such a price it's like you gonna make starve the guy who's working.
Balinese are good and cool people with poor negociation skills, so don't be an a..hole, respect them and their work, if somebody can not afford to pay 50000 rp for a board (4 Eur), stay at home, don't come with that neo colonialism spirit, you know how much it costs to hire a board anywhere in the world, so stop trying to abuse them and don't pretend to be cool, you're not. (I target nobody here, it's just daily observation of western people hanging around Kuta beach)
Also if you can buy your cigarettes and beer from local warungs instead f 711, you will make good for the local community rather than giving money to golbal companies for the same price.
Bapak Jaffa's call on this, bargaining is a social skill in Bali
, but you need to know several things.
A lot of the stores are run by somebody outside the local seller and the local seller is restricted in what he can lower the price to.
Buy water chocolate drinks cigarettes etc at local warungs you'll pay local prices or near them, for these it is plain bad manners to bargain. 711s are killing local small shop keepers that is definitely true, be a good customer, you will be remembered and get the warmest of Balinese smiles. Be a bad customer expect bad Karma
First look around, realise how cheap everything is in relation to what you would pay at home.
For board shorts tee shirts etc, Don't pay first asked price and don't be abusive or aggressive, you have much more money than most sellers ( you flew to Bali). Bargain and chat and if you have looked around you will have an idea of the going prices. It is quite acceptable if the price is good and you buy to offer some small amount of money as a thank to the store holder for "personal service" but only if you have not been hassled.
As to boards or anything take your time sit down talk and find out what is the real situation as to the cost and wages etc base your negotiations and bargaining on knowledge not greed mentality.
IMO the ugliest thing in Bali is bad attitudes and big mouths on visitors and the response it can create. I've been going to Indonesia since the 70s, and we can be the problem or the solution
Have serious look at the westerners around you and see how evenly the genuine Balinese cope with the mega flush of tourists.
Could you do that if your local beach had that sort of avalanche
and still genuinely smile.
Rant over, Terimah kasih banyak
I've taken up troll hunting just for fun, instead of a rifle I'll just use a pun!