Good thought mate let's see what comes of it
Katsura wrote:Good for ya.
The reason I brought this up is, we need a set of common measured standard for the diff skill levels - everyone have their own definition of beginner, intermediate and advanced. So when different people chime in on a topic, it can get 'lost in translation' quickly.
So what do you say guys, shall we define a common set of skill standards and post it somewhere on the site so people can measure against a common scale?
(The same goes for wave size, people either underestimate or over estimate it).
This, Katsura, is a really interesting idea, and I'm not knocking it, I've seen wonderful ways of measuring wave size and opinions of surfing ability.
I'd like to see it nailed.
So these are my ideas, consider overhead = 6ft unless you are a young grommet or vertically challenged, double overhead about 10 to 12ft triple about 15 to 18ft measure trough to crest at the front of the breaking wave, This does not take into consideration the bottom contours but it does consider a sudden pitch in size. In some waves there are different consequences a 12ft Teahopou wave does change in size but has massive heaving thickness that is beyond size. The Wedge at Newport beach has a very sudden increase in height and consequences but not the thickness of Teahopou so a size comparison is not adequate.
Measuring from the back Hmmmmm? any other ways and then when you get to the tow in hunt the 100ft wave measurements come back to scale against the size of the rider against the wave.
I don't know, and then the assessment of the wave you are riding yourself, it gets a pretty good reality shake up when you actually see photos or videos of yourself. The rider's engaged perception of the wave is not the reality, only the experience ( which is what it is about ).
Now my thoughts on ability are something similar "The rider's engaged perception of skills is not necessarily the reality, only the experience ( which is what it is about ). As the rider becomes more experience their self assessment of their skill increases.
Personally, I wouldn't want to put lines in the sand as to ability too much, as it can really spoil the learning experience at each stage if learners get too strung out on crossing those lines.
Example, there are in many surf guides, breaks listed as intermediate, expert or all surfers, sometimes at say some of the intermediate spots I think somebody who has been told ( by the chart they are intermediate) would get a severe hammering.
Better to let their innate experience tell them whether they can handle it or not. Not some third party assessment.
That's my rant, but there bound to be other valid points of view, rack em and stack em