by Rickyroughneck » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:15 am
by tony g » Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:00 am
by drowningbitbybit » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:38 am
by tonylamont » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:57 pm
by Rickyroughneck » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:08 pm
drowningbitbybit wrote: But that's not the point... the paddle should be like climbing a ladder: you put your hand forward and then pull yourself to that position, not pull your hand back to where you are.
tonylamont wrote:If it makes you feel any better, I think I'm going through the same thing after nearly a year of practicing. I can tell I'm getting a little better because I'm getting outside on some bigger days when it used to be impossible. But it's still tough to see more experienced surfers paddle right past me like I'm not moving at all.
One thing I've noticed is that I paddle a lot better earlier in sessions (duh) - as I tire, my technique gets sloppy, the board moves side to side more and my paddling isn't as efficient. Agree with the comment about climbing a ladder - when I'm doing better it seems to work that way.
by drowningbitbybit » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:59 pm
Rickyroughneck wrote: putting the energy into the start of the stroke is more efficient
by drowningbitbybit » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:03 pm
by surfsadhu » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:49 pm
Rickyroughneck wrote:Thanks for the replies!drowningbitbybit wrote: But that's not the point... the paddle should be like climbing a ladder: you put your hand forward and then pull yourself to that position, not pull your hand back to where you are.
Interesting, I did long strokes before and I think that was what tired me out a lot as it meant I was doing too much work with my shoulder. I read on another forum that keeping the elbows high and putting the energy into the start of the stroke is more efficient, maybe it needs shorter strokes to capitalise on that (down to the chest only or something).
by Rickyroughneck » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:16 am
surfsadhu wrote:I think I saw the source you referenced (Tom Caroll), Ricky, and it has made an enormous difference in my paddling. Reaching forward for the catch, leaving arms and hands shaped but relaxed0, pull back and down until level with chest, pull elbow straight up behind the ribs to bring the hand out of the water near the chest and shoot straight forward for the next catch. By pushing down and back I am lifting the board slightly and pulling it forward. If I paddled past the chest, I would be pushing the board down in the water and do more throwing water behind than pulling the board forward. I used to climb ladders as part of a job I used to have and you reach up to grab the rung and pull yourself up until it is at your chest, not down by your hip, to grab the next rung. Same with the way I now paddle.
I am no ripper, but I get out much, much easier than I used to. I also catch more waves, position better, and have energy to move with the sandbars or against the current for much longer into the session. The board moves faster because I get more strokes per minute..like two strokes at 70% of the power in the same time it takes to eke out 100% power out of a single stroke. The key to more strokes per minute for me was to get comfortable with the new technique so I could learn to relax as much as possible. Relaxed muscles can move faster than tense muscles and I'm not damaging the sheaths on my nerves that pass through my shoulder joints by tensing my arm muscles and swinging my arms out to the sides (Torque=force x length of lever).
Practicing lying in paddling position (chest and feet up, balanced side-to-side and front-to-rear) on an indo board with the round pad under it really helped me improve at the new stroke, as I found it took more balance to reach forward...where the power is.
I'm 41 and big, so what works for me might not be what is best for everyone else...I think that someone who has the fitness level and surfing experience of a pro-surfer doesn't need to worry so much about paddle technique.
Please forgive such a long second post
by travel » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:33 am
7 hours ago by oldmansurfer6 comments
1 day ago by LoserKid3 comments
1 day ago by jaffa194911 comments
2 days ago by AKLsurfer3 comments
2 days ago by TheFNG2 comments
3 days ago by jaffa19493 comments
3 days ago by NEWYORKCITYSURF2 comments
3 days ago by mrlegion19832 comments