Help a newb stop wiping out!!!!

by **RJD** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:11 am

Is there an oldgrom to english translation service on the internet?

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by **vanfossenator** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:29 pm

Back to the Waterhog questions...Would I notice a huge difference between a 7'6 and an 8'6 board???

Also the description of the waterhog says it is a good wave catcher, does this mean it is built for easier paddling/speed?

And what does it mean ride as a thruster?

http://www.surfstationstore.com/productcart/pc/Channel-Islands-7-6-Waterhog-144p3448.htm

Thanks

by **Sykes** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:33 pm

RJD wrote:Is there an oldgrom to english translation service on the internet?

Yep.

Don't look at your feet or you'll be getting a salt water enema. Surfing Good! Once you get that first real ride, you're hooked. Sykes is brilliant! :lol:

by **oldgrom** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:36 pm

AH HA HA HA HA HA

by **oldgrom** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:07 pm

O.K. van think of the waterhog as a mini mal/ funboard-mini mal hybrid and if it has a traditional 3 fixed fin boxes,plugs,glassed,etc it has a fin configuration as a short board thruster( hence you ride it as a long truster, if you order or see one that has the optional center box than you have a mini mal/longboard center fin in an adjustable box. I would recomend the box center than you have a kick azz stick. You can get a center fin size as a thruster fin and have a thruster type config or go as far as running a larger center fin and removing the side bite fins or as a mal with em in very fluid board with just some fins and where you put the center fin changes the board. As the shape of the board it's again a profile that is stable and floaty with shape in tail,rails and rocker that will perform speed as a funboard / mini mal and has a little more kick in the tail and rails for the turning ability to be a little more responsive. It's ease of paddling comes from it's foam floatability and the the rocker/shape. Keep in mind this ain't no easy duck diver but they float,paddle and surf great it's kinda like a hyper mini mal. Notice a 1' length ,,,, yes you would notice the dif right off the bat. 8-6 is what I have for 3 of my mals and 7-4,7-6 guns 7-0 funboard and so. For sure the 8-6 is a super floater compared to the same but smaller size waterhog 8-6 to 7-6.
8-6 is the most float and largest stable platform,period. But the 7-6 will have an easer time in the turns. But the funest and easest one to ride and that is a do all in all conditions is the 8-6 with box center, all three box is better. That's what I have and would recomend the same, you can't have a log or barge of foam that will act as a short stick that's why I have so many the waterhog profile screams mini mal so make it a mini mal and get anouther for something else. By far some of the best and funnest sticks in my quiver ar mals or overgrown fun boards. 8-6 box I say. hope this helps ya and whatever your choice it's a fine stick you'll be happy.

by **vanfossenator** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:54 am

oldgrom: come again?...haha...just kidding, thankyou for that great info man...I think that sums up my decision on what board to buy...I have been looking at all kinds of different boards this past summer, and I kept goin back to the waterhog, I appreciate all the advice and info!

by **oldgrom** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:51 pm

HA HA I did the same. I have a large quiver but love boards and continue to get em and the waterhog's lines were something I realy liked and kept going back to, so finaly said screw it and got one. Compared to some outhers in my quiver it's not the best but it is a worthy contender and overall is a real nice board and don't feel totaly jacked in the rear end for how much I paid for it. Now as for a buddy who took it out he'll swear by it for he was able to surf finaly his third time out. Now keep in mind I allso moved the center fin all the way back and made it tight for him so he could have a better time on the watter. So like I said box center for sure it gives you like three boards in one with just fin changes. Good luck brudda and have fun.

by **alimac2411** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:42 pm

vanfossenator wrote:hey guys, I went out on saturday...waves probably only knee to waist high and pretty glassy...I followed alot of your advice and I feel I improved greatly from last week...Rode alot more than before...I caught myself watchin my feet, when I stopped it started to come together...haha...actually looked like I knew what I was doin...

I did find with the weaker waves I need to work on my paddle strength...Its coming along good though!!! Thanks everybody

Great to hear you've improved man! The more time u spend in the water the better you'll get now...soon you'll be ripping :lol:

by **dahlia** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:58 am

I went a whole summer without progressing....i thought maybe i wasn't paddling fast enough because i can stand up and stay up...i just couldn' catch a larger wave without toppling through it. One day a surf instructor happened to be out surfing and noticed that I was not really angling my board. He said that i should push the front of the board down the wave...mine was sticking straight out and knocking me over every time. I don't know if this makes much sense but it really kept me from falling forwards into the wave.

by **vanfossenator** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:06 pm

yeah I found angling seems to be huge...I am gonna try and get out today...waves are 4ft - overhead at some parts...whitewash again for me today

I read a report this morning and it said the waves are slammin on the inside and it is still hard to find a predictable sandbar...typical florida...Its gonna be much tougher than last week...I'm amped tho!!!

by **vanfossenator** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:23 am

Hey yall...check out my latest post...any suggestions???

http://www.surfing-waves.com/forum/view ... 597#125597

by **costaricasurf** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:27 am

The waterhog is an excellent beginner board. It has plenty of volume, which will give you more floatation and stability. I would highly recommend that as a a first board.

by **vanfossenator** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:46 am

My ultimate goal is to surf short boards...would I still want to get a waterhog that is 8' or more...and progress into shorter boards??? I was talking to a guy at a local surf shop and he told me if I want to surf short boards in the future than I should just buy a board that is 6'8 or so, with more thickness...Is this a good strategy...I have been renting for the time being...haven't really got out to much this winter...

by **themathteacher** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:40 am

As I said before, a fat wide fish about 7ft will surf about the same as an 8ft funboard, and you get better performance.

Is there a board rental place near you? I think you need to try some boards.

by **vanfossenator** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:38 pm

I'm gonna try some more 7 ft boards before I buy

by **cmgroovy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:21 pm

justloafing wrote:I have to agree with being late on the take off, If you are surfing where the shortboarders take off your not in the right place. My rule of thumb is where the wave first starts breaking, paddle 10 - 15 more strong strokes past that. When you see the wave you want get positioned and start paddling to get some speed. Right before the wave is getting to you take real strong paddles. As soon as you feel the board start gliding along the wave pop up. Also make sure your paddling is smooth as so your board is not going side to side. Also angle a little to shore.

As for what size board...........whats your weight and height. And as of where you surf. St. Aug, FL. Think about the usual size waves. I would guess a lot of knee to waist high.

Strong paddling is really key. justloafing I read your post and put that into practice, today I caught some high waves that I have always wiped out on. :woot:

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