Getting to the nose or close to it.

by **justloafing** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:27 pm

I was out the other day in some nice soft waist to chest high waves. I have been just shifting my weight froward to stay on waves when the wave gets to about mid way on my board and keep up with the wave. My questions are, how far up the board does the wave need to be on my board before I attempt to get to the nose or close to it and is it a quick step or slow?

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by **bluesnowcone** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:18 pm

with em one day i couldn't noes ride the next i could( not very well tho) with me i was just surfing and i found myself right up near the noes and i just went for it, stuck 5 little piggies over the end and hey presto. granted its a very hard skill to master and i know i cant just walk to the noes and it happens.

by **cwell27** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:47 pm

Best time to start walking to your nose is just after your bottom turn and as your board is rising to the top of the wave. You want to step as light as possible as big heavy steps will increase speed on your board and your board will drop and end up nose diving if your to far up your board. Best way to practise is by finding a line on the ground and practise stepping along that. It sounds stupid but it will help you out with your cross step. Its not something you will learn overnight but when you finally get it you will be stoked!!

by **justloafing** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:05 pm

cwell27 wrote:Best time to start walking to your nose is just after your bottom turn and as your board is rising to the top of the wave. You want to step as light as possible as big heavy steps will increase speed on your board and your board will drop and end up nose diving if your to far up your board. Best way to practise is by finding a line on the ground and practise stepping along that. It sounds stupid but it will help you out with your cross step. Its not something you will learn overnight but when you finally get it you will be stoked!!

Great tips. Thanks.
I used to frame houses so yeah I know about the balance issue or stepping. It is not stupid to practice stepping on the ground. I want to do it right and not shuffle my feet foward.

by **justloafing** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:12 pm

bluesnowcone wrote:with em one day i couldn't noes ride the next i could( not very well tho) with me i was just surfing and i found myself right up near the noes and i just went for it, stuck 5 little piggies over the end and hey presto. granted its a very hard skill to master and i know i cant just walk to the noes and it happens.

Haha, I can't wait to get the toes over. I bet it takes some practice to make getting the toes over the nose look easy and graceful.

by **bluesnowcone** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:11 pm

justloafing wrote:
bluesnowcone wrote:with em one day i couldn't noes ride the next i could( not very well tho) with me i was just surfing and i found myself right up near the noes and i just went for it, stuck 5 little piggies over the end and hey presto. granted its a very hard skill to master and i know i cant just walk to the noes and it happens.

Haha, I can't wait to get the toes over. I bet it takes some practice to make getting the toes over the nose look easy and graceful.

to right, the first time i got my toes over aparently i was squatting down and it looked like i was about to take a s**t :lol:

but im just starting to get the hang of it now, but i could still do with some more practice, i havent been out on my longboard for over a month.

by **boardrider** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:46 am

it helps to keep your board up in the top half of the wave
this helps 'lock' it in

by **Otter** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:35 pm

cwell27 wrote:Best time to start walking to your nose is just after your bottom turn and as your board is rising to the top of the wave. You want to step as light as possible as big heavy steps will increase speed on your board and your board will drop and end up nose diving if your to far up your board. Best way to practise is by finding a line on the ground and practise stepping along that. It sounds stupid but it will help you out with your cross step. Its not something you will learn overnight but when you finally get it you will be stoked!!

Well, I agree with the cross stepping... another way to practice is cross step while your walking down stairs, but be careful.

The whole idea of nose riding is speed. If you're going fast enough, your board will plane on the surface of the wave regardless of where you stand. It's when you slow down that your nose will go under and you'll do a bit of "pearl diving." Don't try nose riding without the speed, you'll go nowhere. Agreed, best time to head forward is after your bottom turn. This is the portion of the wave that has the most juice, I generally ride within the first 3 feet of my 10' board on good days, a bit further back if it's mushy.

But getting in the tube is where it's really at.

by **stonebrew4life** » Tue May 20, 2008 3:04 pm

ive seen people pop up and run right to the nose before they even drop in and turn
any tips on how to do that?

by **parrysurf** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:30 pm

stonebrew4life wrote:ive seen people pop up and run right to the nose before they even drop in and turn
any tips on how to do that?

10'0 and 150lbs!!!!!

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by **Roy Stewart** » Fri May 23, 2008 3:02 am

Otter wrote:
The whole idea of nose riding is speed.

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Noseriding slows the board down. . . increasing speed requires more weight on the tail in order to reduce wetted surface area.

The idea that noseriding increases speed is one of the biggest myths of surfing.

Noseriding reduces speed, it's a slowboarding move.

Not only that, boards designed to noseride are incorrectly designed for optimising speed.

The only reason to noseride is to harmonise your mind with surf industry advertising.

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by **Jimi** » Fri May 23, 2008 6:42 am

Not sure what board you're riding, but I've found (on a mini-mal 7'8) that I get closest to the nose after I've turned up the face of the wave, and am going down the line a fair way up the face. I think the angle of the board to the water (as compared with being lower on the face where the board is flatter on the surface) helps to generate lift in the nose, as well as sucking the back of the board downward...

That's just what works for me, but I usually ride shortboards, and only grab the mini mal on the small days.

by **Hangtensurfing** » Sun May 25, 2008 3:40 pm

Most boards off the shelf designed for noseriding really slows the board down. The best time to get on the nose is when you get a quick turn from a bottom turn or a straight line but speed is needed!!! because the board is going to start slowing things down. Cross stepping is known to make smooth stable movement up to the nose, but as along as you are center on the stringer without jerky movements, you can acheive the toes on the nose.

Don't be fooled by board companies showing off how great certain board noseride, anyone of their best noserider can noseride any board, it comes down to skill 90% and 10% equipment.

by **RJD** » Sun May 25, 2008 9:36 pm

[Roy mode on] ..+30% disfunctionality and 25% industry brainwashing[/Roy mode off]

by **Roy Stewart** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:06 pm

Shutup RJD I'm only speaking the truth. . . . noseriding slows the board down and noseriding boards are inherently slow designs.

The acelerating rocker used in noeriding boards is the reverse of what is required for a fast surfboard.

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by **RJD** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:10 pm

...and everyone wants to go as fast as possible?

Your never going to consider it worthwhile so why dont you stay out of noseriding discussions? Prehaps people enjoy doing it.

Or cant you build a noserider...?:D

by **Roy Stewart** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:21 pm

I was replying to Otter who said that "The whole idea of noseriding is speed"

The idea that noseriding is for speed is an almost universal surfing myth, it's probably a good idea to point this out occasionally so that the truth is occasionally available amongst all the BS propaganda.

It's easy to slow down a fast board, but speeding up a slowboard is impossible. . . fast boards are quite simply better at making waves.

by **RJD** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:26 pm

I think you were missing his point, he was saying you cant noseride if your boards going slow, it needs some pace for you to be able to noseride. Which is about correct.

It may not be the fastest board, but look what happens when you make a long fast board, people try to noseride it !

by **Roy Stewart** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:00 pm

Most noseriding is a stalling move where the tail is held in place with whitewater so I can't agree there

In any case it doesn't bother me personally as I am happy to keep my advantage, just trying to help.

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by **RJD** » Mon May 26, 2008 10:02 pm

advantage? what advantage?

Its not a competition, and even if it was you score jack xxxxx for just having pace.

Getting to the nose or close to it.

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